Karl Barth and N.T. Wright on the Issue of War

Princeton Theological Seminary has begun a study on the works of N.T. Wright called the “N.T. Wright Project” and will be blogging about it here.

A recent post called “Violence, Monsters, and the Ascension: Barth and Wright on the Problem of War” caught my eye since I’d been reading Barth and love N.T. Wright. The post intends to juggle both Barth’s view on ethics and Wright’s view on discipleship in light of the debate between war and non-violence. Being a proponent of non-violent Christianity made the post irresistable. When you have a moment, read the post. I’m interested in hearing your comments here on this site.

Excerpt:

I’m with Barth in thinking that Christian ethics isn’t frozen and fixed but dynamic, since it constitutes obedience to the living Word that continues to be spoken today in Jesus Christ. But I don’t know if I can go along with Barth in leaving the possibility open that Jesus will command his followers to use violence and wage war. Here’s where we can bring Wright’s thoughts into play…      more…

Q: How do you feel about Barth’s view on ethics?

Q: Do you agree or disagree with the author’s convergence of Barth’s and Wright’s thought?

The Antichrist Makes Peace Impossible [Part 2: The Antichrist and His Minions]

If there is light in the soul, there will be beauty in the person. If there is beauty in the person, there will be harmony in the house. If there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation. If there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world.

-Chinese Proverb

There was a point where I remember expressing to another Christian that I was for Christian non-violence (i.e., what some term “pacifism”), but the individual responded with his view of the book of Revelation where Christ makes war with the Beast. He posed the question somewhat like, “How could non-violence be Christian if Christ goes to war in the future apocalypse?” I responded, “Well, I guess that’s would be the case if you read Revelation that way.” I’m a firm believer that our views about the future affect what we do as God’s people now. And this is no different.

After that conversation, I went a bit deeper in thought. I began to think about how the Antichrist is supposed to come a bring peace to the world, but, as I was told in Sunday School, it would be a “false” peace. It was often concluded that anyone who attempts to bring about peace in this world should be looked upon with suspicion, perhaps, he is the Antichrist? Thus, we spent way too much time pointing out who is the Antichrist (right now, a popular target is Obama, in case you didn’t know).

American evangelicals have often been skeptical of anyone (even other evangelicals!) who speaks about bringing peace to the world. You’ve probably heard, “Well…world peace will never happen until Jesus comes back.” True, but such statements have implied, “So…instead, I’ll do nothing. Maybe I’ll support war, but, mainly, I’ll do nothing to bring about peace to this world.”

Now, if we look back to our last post, the Bible speaks of the spirit of antichrist–a principle, mindset, personality of antichrist that can be embodied in anyone or anything. I have to say, such statements as the above embody the spirit of antichrist. Here’s why I say that: the problem is not world peace, but it is world peace brought about by a counter-kingdom or counter-king. In Revelation, the counter-kingdom is the Antichrist’s kingdom–it is an anti-kingdom! The true kingdom is brought about by the kingdom of God and its King–Jesus the Christ.

Everytime he said, “Jesus is Lord,” the apostle Paul was attacking the counter-king (or antichrist), Caesar, by implying, “Caesar is not [Lord].” The New Testament apocalyptic passages are doing the same. They aren’t saying, “Peace is bad. Non-violence is bad, and be skeptical of it.” They are saying, “Anyone who brings about peace and non-violence in a counter-kingdom-way is antichrist. Be skeptical of that.” Jesus and his kingdom bring peace, and no one or nothing else does. It’s not peace that’s bad, but it’s spirit-of-antichrist peace that Christians must oppose.

I understand Jesus said, “I didn’t come to bring peace but a sword,” but I think we all can understand that to be metaphorical and not a trivial argument against Christian non-violence. I understand Christian non-violence doesn’t make sense, but neither did the cross, and we believe in that. And yes, I’ve read the Old Testament. But I am convinced that Jesus’ people are asked to bear the burden of peace and justice until he returns.

Jesus’ birth was “peace on earth” and anyone or anything that is against his kingdom of peace is anti-King, anti-kingdom…Antichrist.

Mother Teresa once said, “If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.” Peace starts when we bring it to our local contexts. What are ways we as Christians can work for peace in our local contexts?

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Why Every Christian Should Read Jesus for President – IV

This is in no way a new thought, but I don’t know about you, but, when I grew up in evangelical Christian circles, I knew that evangelicals vote Republican (or, at least vote on now Republican ideals). Why? Well, the answer is simple. Certain things – pro-life (however, only on abortion), capital punishment (see what I mean) is ordained by God, war against anyone that would prevent American (presumed Christian) ideals around the world, homosexuality is sinful, and…well, I’m having difficulty coming up with more.

Actually, I saw this most recently with a three-column spreadsheet of the issues and where each candidate stood on the issue “yes” or “no.” You’ve seen them. Column 1 – Issue, 2 – McCain (yay!), 3 – Obama (boo!). It was broken down into about ten issues, which was really the above four issues stated in a multiplicity of ways. The Iraq War was only mentioned once, and so was capital punishment. So, you can guess how the other two issues were posed throughout the last 8 statements (I think gay rights had five and abortion three). You don’t need to be a rocket-scientist to figure out the conclusion – the donkey lost.

 

 

I don’t think I would have been so perturbed if it wasn’t so reductionistic in two ways – (1) it didn’t make the answers as simple as “yes” or “no” and (2) it didn’t make the “important” Christian ideals as simple as abortion, capital punishment, war, and homosexuality. 

 

Christians should be politically confused.

 

“What?” Yes. Think about it – what about poverty? What about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer? The Bible talks more about taking care of the poor than it does homosexuality. Feel free to prove me wrong. I’m not trying to be antagonistic but just making a point. 

What about life? “Well, yeah, we have that covered – we’re pro-life.” Well…kinda. But you believe capital punishment is OK. [You may be fine with that, but I'm not that comfortable playing God]. But you are quick to go to war. As Shane Claiborne says, I’m pro-life from “womb to the tomb.” That’s a good policy. 

What about justice? “Yeah, we have that. We got some conservative judges on the bench, and we can get even more this time around.” Not that kind of justice. I’m talking about dealing with third-world debt. I’m talking about, as Bono says, “Where you live shouldn’t determine if you live.” I’m talking about “loving your neighbor as yourself” (yes, Jesus meant that literally – doesn’t just mean American neighbors…what about global neighbors?). I’m talking about, “And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6v8).

What about violence? Is it OK that “The US arsenal is the largest stockpile of nuclear weaponry in the world, equivalent to over 150,000 Hiroshima bombs…The US military budget is over 450 billion per year, and it would take the combined budgets of the next 15 countries to equal that of the US (Russia is the next biggest spender at around 70 billion, China at 50 billion, and the entire ‘Axis of Evil’ is less than 10 billion)” [p. 178; Claiborne, S., and Haw, C. (2008). Jesus for president: politics for ordinary radicals. Zondervan: Grand Rapids]. Does that bother anyone else? “Well, better us than them.” Whatever you say.

What about the environment? (“Whoa! Evan’s a lib.” I’m just a Christian.) I’m talking about, “God looked over all he had made, and he saw that it was very good [or beautiful]!” (God said that, see Genesis 1v31; we usually skip that part because we are too busy trying to disprove those pesky evolutionists). I’m talking about, “The earth is the LORD’s, and everything in it” (Psalm 24v1). As I’ve said to many Christians before, I don’t care if you believe or don’t believe in global warming, I do care how you treat God’s creation. One author said, How you treat creation reflects how you feel about the Creator.

 

I’m not saying, now Christians should vote Democrat. I don’t think it’s as easy as putting us in one party. In fact, some of the above Christian ideals that I mentioned aren’t seen as “American.” I’m saying we should be politically confused

 

The Christian life is not cushy, easy, and comfortable. We constantly deal with the tensions of being in the world and not of it. We constantly deal with the tension of already bringing the Kingdom of God to earth and not yet because we still wait for its consummation. We constantly deal with the tension of following Jesus as King already, and not yet because we wait for Jesus as King on earth over all things.

 

So, Christians should be politically confused. It doesn’t come down to abortion, war, capital punishment, and homosexuality. It includes thoughts on those things, but it includes, dare I say, the rest of the Bible (for church historians, which we all should be, what the early Church believed). The fact is, it doesn’t matter who you vote for on November 4th as much as it does matter how you vote November 3rd and 5th and every day of your life. So, vote every day with our lives and by standing by what we stand for.

 

We’re a politically confused bunch, aren’t we?

Seven Burning Issues – War

Relevant Magazine put out this article called “Seven Burning Issues – War.” It is the most recent installment of their seven-part article asking a panel of Christian leaders (e.g., Shane Claiborne, Brian McLaren, N.T. Wright, Jim Wallis, and more) about current issues facing Christians today. He’s an excerpt – I particularly liked Jim Wallis‘ answer:

Followers of the Prince of Peace should be the hardest to convince to go to war, never the easiest. We should require the highest measure of proof from our government that a particular war is “necessary and just,” not the lowest. Final judgment over whether or not a war is just should never be left to governments. It should be left to the moral discernment of the global Body of Christ…(more)

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